[Erp5-users] Just a splash window...

[Giorgio]

Hi Alessandro,

my understanding of erp5 is that it's more a framework than a "closed" 
product like Compiere or all the other ERPs, open source or not. There 
is nothing to see because you are supposed to build your ERP together 
with your customer. You have all the building blocks and this is how 
it's supposed to work, actually it's how "zope" works.
Soon we should get a demo which is like "plone" a kind of prototype to 
start with, I guess will be derived from Comray implementation.

The powerful idea behind this, allowed by Python and Zope technology, is 
the flexibility that you can have to create complex business 
applications that match the customers' processes rather the the 
opposite, where is the customer that has to adapt to the ERP processes 
(which are per sure good but also in some way general to be good for as 
many customers as possible). This is essential for small and medium 
company (SME) that can compete with bigger ones thanks to their speed 
and flexibility.

I think the concept is very well described in this article form erp5 
authors:
     http://www.computer.org/itpro/cover_stories/smets.htm

ciao,
Giorgio




alessandro bottoni wrote:

>Alle 17:32, mercoledì 19 gennaio 2005, Sebastian Ware ha scritto:
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>> From what I understand, we need to do a lot of configuring to have the
>>ERP5 installation run as a useful application.
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>Well, I can see that we could have to install a few more Zope components than 
>the single "ERP5 Site" one, but I still cannot see neither how we can access 
>a useful user interface (like the "Main window" you can see in Plone, for 
>example) nor how we can configure it. 
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>I tried to install all the other Zope components that came with the URPMI 
>automatic download and none of them seems to be able to generate a useful UI. 
>I wonder if I miss any component (and why, given that URPMI managed the 
>download and the installation).
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>Moreover, I tried to play a lot with the Zope and the ERP5 site "manage" 
>interfaces without being able to get any useful UI for a possible end user.
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>>The documentation of this is a bit sketchy, look at:
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>>http://www.erp5.org/workspaces/project/guide/index.html/view
>>(BTW, some (hopefully very useful) images seem to be missing in
>>http://www.erp5.org/workspaces/project/guide/workflow)
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>I read all the available docs but none of them seems to care about the "first 
>use" or the "system configuration check" issue. They all stops just after 
>having told you to install the "ERP5 Site" Zope component. I wonder what we 
>are expected to to next.
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>>Work is underway on a "Live CD" which is supposed to be a fully
>>configured, running, installation that we should be able to run
>>straight off a CD. Unfortunately the progress of this "Live CD" is
>>poorly communicated. Being outside the Nexedi team, it is difficult to
>>know when to expect it.
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>This is a good new and a bad new at the same time. It is a good new because it 
>means that sooner or later we will be able to see ERP5 to run from the Live 
>CD. It is a bad new because it means that even the people at Nexedi consider 
>ERP5 very hard to install (despite URPMI and the Zope "Add" feature).
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>Of course, we can use a Live CD to evaluate ERP5 or to demonstrate it but I 
>think we cannot use a Live CD for a real-world installation. After all, ERP5 
>is much more complicated than a CD-based Linux Firewall. What we really need 
>is a robust and complete URPMI installation and configuration procedure.
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>>I can only hope there will be some regular posting regarding the
>>progress of the "Live CD" on this mailing-list. All I have heard is
>>that a lot of hard work is being put into completing it. The muslims
>>say it best "Inshallah, it will be ready soon..."
>>http://glimpseofiraq.blogspot.com/2004/11/inshallah-mashallah.html
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>>Regards Sebastian Ware
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>I hope our prayer will be heared soon.
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