[Erp5-users] ERP5 implementation cost

[Nizar LYAZIDI]

Hi JPS
can you help to estimate the cost in this case :
An industrie of 400 persons & some of 50 MEuros needs to implements most
basic modules (sells&bye, Manufacturing, Financial, Project, Personnel, CRM
& SCM). The whole implementation process will be done by an external service
provider.

Regards,
Nizar




On 2/27/07, Nizar LYAZIDI <nizar.teggo at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> ok thank you :)
>
>
>  On 2/26/07, Jean-Paul Smets <jp at nexedi.com> wrote:
> >
> > Le lundi 26 février 2007 16:12, Nizar LYAZIDI a écrit :
> > > Hi,
> > > Thank you for these remarques.
> > > Now I know that the cost can't be defined easily. But I would like
> > just a
> > > concrete exemple to have an idea.
> > > this would allow me to have a larger view when comparing ERP5 to other
> > > solutions like Compiere.
> > > Regards,
> > > Nizar.
> > >
> >
> > Here is a concrete public example with "zero cash" cost:
> > http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/02/01/74993_HNsenegalopensource_1.html
> >
> > The only cost for the customer was to get his engineer trained to ERP5.
> >
> > There are other similar cases.
> >
> > JPS.
> >
> >
> > > On 2/24/07, Jean-Paul Smets <jp at nexedi.com > wrote:
> > > > Le vendredi 23 février 2007 15:37, Nizar LYAZIDI a écrit :
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > > Does anybody here know the overall cost of implementing Dolibarr
> > in a
> > > > > SME, and how long does the process last? and, too, what are
> > training
> > > > > fees? (if there are trainigs). I'm working on a comparison between
> > > > > open source solutions for SME, and this kind of details aren't
> > really
> > > > > available. Thank you in advance for your help.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nizar
> > > >
> > > > Your question can not be answered as such.
> > > >
> > > > SME: how you need to define it ?
> > > > Implement: what is covered by the imlementation ?
> > > > Cost: what is your way of defining a cost ?
> > > >
> > > > I would say that the answer with ERP5 is anything between
> > > > -10,000,000 EUR to +2,000,000 EUR (which includes zero cost).
> > > >
> > > > Negative values represent profit (eg. negative cost) related to the
> > > > implementation.
> > > >
> > > > Posivitive values represent all costs (internal + external) in an
> > SME
> > > > where
> > > > employees receive high salaries. The largest part of the cost is
> > > > therefore taken by internal costs.
> > > >
> > > > Zero represents an SME which downloads ERP5 and makes it work by
> > > > themselves
> > > > (such as some we know in Europe).
> > > >
> > > > All the these costs are equally relevant or equally meaningless. I
> > > > would recommend the reading of this document:
> > > >        http://www.riveline.net/poly/
> > > >
> > > > To summarise, this document explains that "the cost" of something
> > does
> > > > not exist as such unlike "the price" of something. However, it is
> > > > possible to compare scenarii of cash flow related to decision
> > making.
> > > >
> > > > Regarding the implementation time, it can be anything between half a
> > > > day and
> > > > 2 years with ERP5. Half day is a quick configuration of standard
> > ERP5.
> > > > 2 years is the configuration of huge system with hundred custom
> > > > workflows, automatic testing, multiple interfaces, extensive
> > > > scalabiilty optimisation and extensive migration simulation.
> > > >
> > > > What happens nowadays is that SMEs behave more and more like
> > > > multinationals.
> > > > The same have also become true with non profit associations. As a
> > > > result, SMEs requirements for ERPs have become as complex sometimes
> > as
> > > > for multinationals.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > JPS.
> > > >
> > > >
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