<div>Hi JPS</div>
<div>can you help to estimate the cost in this case :</div>
<div>An industrie of 400 persons & some of 50 MEuros needs to implements most basic modules (sells&bye, Manufacturing, Financial, Project, Personnel, CRM & SCM). The whole implementation process will be done by an external service provider.
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<div>Regards,</div>
<div>Nizar</div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/27/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Nizar LYAZIDI</b> <<a href="mailto:nizar.teggo@gmail.com">nizar.teggo@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span>
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<div>ok thank you :)<br><br> </div>
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<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 2/26/07, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jean-Paul Smets</b> <<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jp@nexedi.com" target="_blank">jp@nexedi.com</a>> wrote:
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="PADDING-LEFT: 1ex; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid">Le lundi 26 février 2007 16:12, Nizar LYAZIDI a écrit :<br>> Hi,<br>> Thank you for these remarques.
<br>> Now I know that the cost can't be defined easily. But I would like just a<br>> concrete exemple to have an idea.<br>> this would allow me to have a larger view when comparing ERP5 to other<br>> solutions like Compiere.
<br>> Regards,<br>> Nizar.<br>><br><br>Here is a concrete public example with "zero cash" cost:<br><a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/02/01/74993_HNsenegalopensource_1.html" target="_blank">
http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/02/01/74993_HNsenegalopensource_1.html </a><br>The only cost for the customer was to get his engineer trained to ERP5.<br><br>There are other similar cases.<br><br>JPS.<br><br><br>> On 2/24/07, Jean-Paul Smets <
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:jp@nexedi.com" target="_blank">jp@nexedi.com </a>> wrote:<br>> > Le vendredi 23 février 2007 15:37, Nizar LYAZIDI a écrit :<br>> > > Hi,
<br>> > > Does anybody here know the overall cost of implementing Dolibarr in a<br>> > > SME, and how long does the process last? and, too, what are training <br>> > > fees? (if there are trainigs). I'm working on a comparison between
<br>> > > open source solutions for SME, and this kind of details aren't really<br>> > > available. Thank you in advance for your help. <br>> > ><br>> > > Nizar<br>> ><br>> > Your question can not be answered as such.
<br>> ><br>> > SME: how you need to define it ?<br>> > Implement: what is covered by the imlementation ? <br>> > Cost: what is your way of defining a cost ?<br>> ><br>> > I would say that the answer with ERP5 is anything between
<br>> > -10,000,000 EUR to +2,000,000 EUR (which includes zero cost).<br>> > <br>> > Negative values represent profit (eg. negative cost) related to the<br>> > implementation.<br>> ><br>> > Posivitive values represent all costs (internal + external) in an SME
<br>> > where <br>> > employees receive high salaries. The largest part of the cost is<br>> > therefore taken by internal costs.<br>> ><br>> > Zero represents an SME which downloads ERP5 and makes it work by
<br>> > themselves<br>> > (such as some we know in Europe).<br>> ><br>> > All the these costs are equally relevant or equally meaningless. I<br>> > would recommend the reading of this document:
<br>> > <a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="http://www.riveline.net/poly/" target="_blank">http://www.riveline.net/poly/</a><br>> ><br>> > To summarise, this document explains that "the cost" of something does
<br>> > not exist as such unlike "the price" of something. However, it is <br>> > possible to compare scenarii of cash flow related to decision making.<br>> ><br>> > Regarding the implementation time, it can be anything between half a
<br>> > day and<br>> > 2 years with ERP5. Half day is a quick configuration of standard ERP5. <br>> > 2 years is the configuration of huge system with hundred custom<br>> > workflows, automatic testing, multiple interfaces, extensive
<br>> > scalabiilty optimisation and extensive migration simulation. <br>> ><br>> > What happens nowadays is that SMEs behave more and more like<br>> > multinationals.<br>> > The same have also become true with non profit associations. As a
<br>> > result, SMEs requirements for ERPs have become as complex sometimes as <br>> > for multinationals.<br>> ><br>> > Regards,<br>> ><br>> > JPS.<br>> ><br>> ><br>> > --
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