<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 7:10 PM, Nicolas Dumazet <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nicolas.dumazet@nexedi.com">nicolas.dumazet@nexedi.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
Hello Collins!<br>
<div class="im"><br>
On 01/14/2011 05:49 AM, Collins Areba wrote:<br>
> I tried it and finally decided to move to openERP for my hospital<br>
> management solution. Looks decent and browsing the net shows there is<br>
> significant credibility.<br>
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</div>All the best with OpenERP, then.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
<br></div></blockquote><div><br>The problem is not with Collins, but rather Nexedi.<br><br>You are KNOWN to NOT support your users unless they call<br>you guys, explain what they are trying to do, and then you guys<br>PRICE your "SUPPORT/TRAINING" based on the VALUE of<br>
what prospective clients are trying to do with Erp5.<br><br>Nexedi, dont you see how you look?<br><br>Do you care?<br><br>Why, when this was written back in 2007, it is SO TRUE TODAY:<br><br><a href="http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.zope.erp5.general/738">http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.python.zope.erp5.general/738</a><br>
[SNIPPED]<br><pre>I have been following erp5 for 3 years. But I have never implemented it.<br>Last I looked there were no decent docs. I just took another look and it<br>looks like that situation hasn't changed much. There are a bunch of one<br>
or two page howto's on <a href="http://erp5.org">erp5.org</a> but still no manual. The community<br>maintained "handbook" is probably the best thing there is and it is very<br>incomplete. Probably having something to do with a lack of community.<br>
<br>There is still nothing like a "Getting Started Guide" to explain the<br>general theory of ERP5 or ERP in general it seems. I am fairly<br>experienced with Zope and I would like to be able to implement ERP5 but<br>
at this point cannot be comfortable with it. I should check out the<br>livecd again. A couple years ago I downloaded it and booted it. I<br>couldn't make it do anything useful. No docs, no examples, nothing. I<br>asked Nexedi about this and they explained that they can't make it do<br>
much because their clients keep all of their business processes secret<br>so they cannot include them in a livecd. That was a big cop-out though.<br>It can't be that hard to implement a basic mom and pop store just as a<br>
demo. I'm downloading it again now and hopefully it has improved.<br><br>I always got the impression that ERP5 was just barely open source. The<br>source is there and you can use/copy it but good luck getting started<br>
with it. All roads lead to paying Nexedi money to help you learn or<br>implement it and from what I can tell this is by design. Most of the<br>questions here are answered by Nexedi: Jerome, Jean-Paul, Yoshinori,<br>etc. and few others because there is little reason for anyone to get<br>
involved when the barrier to entry is so high. What good is an open<br>source ERP if you are still going to be beholden to one company to keep<br>your factory running?<br><br>I really wish it used the vastly more popular and mature Plone instead<br>
of CPS (which is in the process of switching to Java) but I suspect that<br>is a religious (and perhaps local or national since CPS is French also)<br>issue and isn't nearly as important as the issue of documentation and<br>
lack of community.<br><br></pre><br></div></div><br>